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well. in illinois a teacher put on leave for allegedly boofrting dozens of students' grades. most of the students are football players and it just happens that her husband it the varsity football coach. also, wisconsin mayor is threatening to sue teenager who happens to be his twitter impersonator. owned by a teenager that will run against the mayor. it's satire. not doing anything. so bring it on, mr. mayor. top of the hour. >> a challenge. i know, it's like a saturday. isn't it? >> like a saturday. >> but it's not. it's the day before thanksgiving. getting the turkey basted? >> big football day tomorrow as well. >> you got it planned out. i'll see you again in the morning. >> same thing. >> same bat channel. >> yes. >> happy thanksgiving. thanks so much, t.j. live from studio 7, i'm fredricka whitfield. get you up to speed this wednesday november 23rd. just in -- egypt's highest ranking muslim
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cleric is calling on police to stop attacking protesters. this comes as the country's uprising bloodier and bolder. authorities now say at least 35 people have been killed and almost 2,000 injured in five straight days of violence. clashes between protesters and police are happening outside tahrir square. and inside the square, tens of thousands of demonstrators are standing their ground demanding the country's military council quickly hand over power to civilian rule. our ben wedeman was on the ground just a short time ago. >> reporter: a lot of the protesters we saw did go back to tahrir square by the -- by the army and the religious figures. 400 or 500 more are holding
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their ground. they're not moving back. >> three american college students accused of throws molotov cocktails at ejipgts police are expected to face more questions today this time in the presence of u.s. embassy representatives. the mother of one of the young men says she's not surprised her son was taking part in the protests but does not believe he was attacking police. >> he is a very passionate person. he believes in democracy. he believes in standing up for what you believe in. standing up for what you feel is right and that's the kind of person he is. so are we surprised that he would go down there and stand up for what he believes in? no. >> and many voters may be rethinking the republican presidential field a day after the cnn national security debate. the candidates were all over the map on issues as far flung as the afghanistan war, iran and illegal immigration. newt gingrich strayed from party lines saying illegal immigrants who have been here for decades
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and obey the law should be able to stay. >> i don't see how -- the party that says it's the party of the family is going to adopt an immigration policy in which destroys families that have been here a quarter century, and i'm prepared to take the heat for saying, let's be humane and in enforcing the law without giving them citizenship but finding a way to create leaguety. >> amnesty is a magnet. when we have had in the past programs that have said people who come here legally are going to get to stay illegally the rest of their life will encourage more people to come here illegally. >> and i'll talk with cnn senior political analyst ron brownstein's in a few minutes and get his take on the debate last night. also a judge in texas who was criticized after a youtube video showed him whipping his daughter has been suspended. the texas supreme court did not give a reason for suspending the judge. the video shows adams hitting his then 16-year-old daughter repeatedly with a belt and cursing at her.
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she was punished for using the internet to illegally download music and games. and new information today on the penn state scandal. sources close to the investigation say child and youth services is looking at two new cases of alleged child abuse by longtime assistant coach jerry sandusky. the boys making allegations are still under 18. >> these are not the first two new cases we've heard of. there have been reports of several other cases, other attorneys have said that they have victims who say that they were abused as far back as the 1970s. so it's unclear how many have been vetted by police. how many mime testify before the grand jury. how many with the statute of limit ace that the cases could be prosecuted. we don't know. >> sandusky is formally charged with molesting eight boys. all are adults now. the university of california-davis is trying to make good after police pepper sprayed peaceful occupy protesters last week. all of which was caught on
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video. the school is now promising to pay the medical bills of students who were sprayed. charges against students who were arrested are being dropped. and a stunning helicopter crash is caught on camera in new zealand. take a look. a. rotor blade clipped a cable as the helicopter was attempting to put up a christmas tree causing the leapt to slam to the ground. the pilot was not seriously hurt. and here's your chance to "talk back" on one of the big stories evof the day as you're preparing for tomorrow's holiday. what are you most grateful for this thanksgiving? carol joins me from new york.
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happy thanksgiving. >> happy thanksgiving to you, too, fredricka. are you getting ready for the thanksgiving prayer. the one before dinner where you thank god for all that's good in your life? i know. tough again this year. with unemployment at 9%, the stock market on a roller coaster ride from hell and bitter partisan politics it's tempting to skip the thanks and ask god for help, please. renowned physician and spiritual guru chopra said don't do it. all of this is impacting the national success. >> feeling insecure, america is at war outside and inside. inside, you know, so much divisiveness in our political parties. >> of course. >> and feeling a lack of self-esteem. we think, oh, we can't produce anymore. but everything that's right still exists. >> hmm. that's easy for him to say. he has a media empire, and i'm sure you whisper, everything that is right still exists to yourself every time you get a job rejection.
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still, on this thanksgiving eve, let's look at the bright side. overall for 2011 we've added 1.2 million jobs. well, that's not as many as we hoped for. we're not losing jobs, right? interest rates are at record lows and staying that way until at least 2013. not bright enough for you? look around you. most of you have love in your life. family, friends, god. so let's focus on those things today. so the "talk back" question of this pre-thanksgiving day eve, is that how you say it? what are you grateful for this thanksgiving? facebook.com/carolcnn. i'll read your responses later this hour. >> all right. look forward to hearing all of those many thanks coming your way. thanks so much, carol. >> sure. here's a rundown of some of the stories we're covering. first, day five in the bloody street protests in egypt. we'll look at exactly what the protesters want and the republican presidential candidates in this country showing just how different they
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think about immigration and national security during last night's debate. and what it might mean for the race for the white house. then, positive news when it comes to jobs in america. unemployment has gone down in most states. we'll show you where. and, also -- tens of millions packing their cars or heading to the airport for in thg hanksgiving holiday. bad weather may slow you down. later, why this former beauty queen is talking to cnn from jail. >> translator: i have been here one year and seven months and am incident of all the accusations. is all a big misunderstanding. i'll just leave you two alone. [ male announcer ] black friday's here. deals start thursday 10 pm. more electronics start at midnight. and we're open all day and night so you don't have to wait outside. walmart.
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it is day five of the pro-democracy demonstrations in egypt. you see it is never-ending. activity in these live pictures. you can hear sirens in the background. this is tahrir square. looks familiar. doesn't it? ground zero for the underrising as it was when they overthrew their longtime president hosni mubarak. this time protesters are taking aim at the military rulers and similar to earlier in the year, the fight for democracy has been deadly. our ivan watson is in the thick of street battles on the streets of cairo. >> reporter: this is where the fighting's been raging now. into the fifth day. this one road here with police not very far away, and these kids choking, puking --
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refusing to give up ground, with the constant tear gas in the air. eyewitnesses show that they're actually breaking the cease-fire sometimes that are around the here. the fury. there's another round of tear gas. i've got to put the gas mask back on. venting their fury at the police. the marshal's speech tuesday night has done nothing to diminish the rage of the people here who continue in these cat and mouse battles with the riot police. i've had my gas mask off for
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about 45 seconds, and i'm already succumbing to the effects. these kids are running around with surgical masks, and spray water, and, again, showing the gas mask canisters clearly manufactured in the u.s. i don't know what can diminish the rage of these young egyptians. what do you want? >> we think this is going to be from the people. the freedom. we don't need any military control for these people. >> reporter: they are embracing -- embracing the protesters, the police, trying to make peace. both sides suffering in this conflict. we can see some of the police crying from the tear gas they've been firing themselves, but i predict both sides are going to start fighting again with a matter of minutes.
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sure enough, moments later, a fresh volley of tear gas sends these young revolutionaries running and skipping for cover. >> and that was cnn's ivan watson reporting on the streets of cairo. and we want to take a moment to honor a member of this cnn family. our hearts are breaking today. longtime cnn radio anchor stan case was killed in a car crash in birmingham, alabama tuesday night. his wife angela steeple-case was injured and remained hospitalized. she is one of cnn's writers. weren't of our lead writers on our weekend team. stan case came to cnn's in 1985 after working for a correspondent for kabcam in oklahoma city. mike jones says case was "in many ways the backbone of this network." tyler moody, vice president of cnn radio says, "our thoughts now are for his wife angie's
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recovery and his family during this difficult time. for over 26 years stan was our friend first and colleague second. he will be missed." stan case was 59 years old.
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eight candidates, eight very different opinions on everything from the war in afghanistan to immigration. jill dougherty has the highlights from last night's cnn republican debate. >> reporter: with eight republicans onstage, president barack obama got a few nicks. they had knives out for each other. >> are you suggesting we take all out of troops out next week? >> are you suggesting, governor, we just take all our troops out next week? what's your -- >> did you hear what i just said? draw down from 100,000. we don't need 100,000 troops. >> reporter: heated debate whether the 9/11 patriot act should be extended. >> all of us will be in danger for the rest of our lives.
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this is not going to end in the short run, and we need to be prepared to protect ourselves. >> you can still provide security without sacrificing our bill of rights. >> i think we have to be very careful in protecting our individual liberties. we forget sometimes that we have a name brand in this world. >> reporter: should specific ethnic or religious groups in america be profiled for security screens? >> who would be profiled? >> absolutely, muslims would be someone you'd look like. these are the people who are committing these crimes. >> digging a hole for ourselves. what if they look like timothy mcveigh? he was a pretty tough criminal. >> reporter: in the midst of a heavy debate, a light moment. >> is it okay for muslim-americans to get more intensive pat-downs or security when he go through airports than christian americans or jewish americans? >> no, blitz. that's oversimplifying it. i happen to believe that if you
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allow our intelligence agencies to do their job, they can come up with an approach -- i'm sorry, blitz. i meant wolf. okay? blitz -- wolf. >> reporter: and what about aid to pakistan? >> i also think that pakistan is a nation that it's kind of like too nuclear to fail. >> until pakistan clearly shows that they have america's best interests in mind, i would not send them one penny, period. >> with all due respect to the governor, i think that's highly naive. >> not ate of fireworks last night but a lot of different ideas how to handle national defense. i'm joined by ron brownstein. ron, play a bit more of that exchange that took place between mitt romney and jon huntsman. let's listen. >> we need a presence on the ground that is more akin to 10,000 or 15,000, that will serve our interests intelligence gathering and special forces
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response capability and we freed to prepare for a world not just in south asia bun in every corner of the world in which counterterrorism is going to be in front of us for as far at the eye can see for the 21st century. >> and the commanders on the ground feel we should bring our troops by -- and all troops by the end of 2014. >> you know, based on what was said last night, who scores the most points on that? >> well, i think mitt romney had been kind of wobbling on this issue. moved around on different positions, he's been accused of that on other issues. now he's aligning hms with staying with the timetable the commanders and president obama set ip. jon hunts sman arguing for a faster drawdown. two different traditions, two different lines of thought in the republican party colliding.
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a realist tradition vibrant going back to james baker and henry kissinger. skeptical of nation building. what george bush ran on talking about humble forei foreign poli and then a much more expensive role for america and the world, a much more willingness to remake societies even at the point of a gun in afghanistan and iraq and that view by and large is dominant in the republican presidential field, but you have both in huntsman a more realist view and ron paul, the kind of libertarian governism, come home america from the other side pap good array of thinking on the republican candidates but a view still dominant. >> most agree economy is the number one issue. when it pertains to security, where is that on the list of
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securities for the average republican voter? >> i think republican voters generally, one of the fissures between the parties, the best way to advance america's interests in the world. no question, believing in a peace through strength argument and more willing to see us go our own way with our without the support of allies, a popular view among the blue collar working class republican party moved since the '60s. the democratic coalition different. they think security is best achieved through international diplomacy and alliance. much more responsive to the kind of reintegration with the world that obama talks about, for that matter, jon huntsman talks about. huntsman looked like a candidate who was appealing almost beyond the republican primary. much of his message seemed very more attuned to unaligned less ideological less partisan voters than the voters deciding his fate. maybe thinking about new hampshire independents who can
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vote in the primary. >> a strength nor newt gingrich. his debating skills. last night talking about immigration, some say quite a departure from the party line. take a listen. >> i don't see how -- the party that says it's the party of the family is going to adopt an immigration policy that destroys families that have been here a quarter century and i'm prepared to take the heat for saying let's be humane in enforcing the law. >> does that help keep him out front or might he have shot himself in the foot? >> it was a huge moment, actually. first of all, the whole debate was, i think, the clearest view for today's voters and today's viewers. the newt gingrich people covered in the 1980s and 1990s, radiating intellectual self-confidence to the point where he does throw some long passes that sometimes are not complete. and that -- what he said last night about immigration was, i think a big gamble in the primary. also a big gamble in the general election for mitt romney in his response if he gets that far.
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what gingrich said most americans probably view as reality. we are not going to deport 11 million people and might make distinctions in any response to illegal immigration, but that is not necessarily a position you can sell in a republican primary. a less incendiary proposal from rick perry that in texas, in-state tuition for illegal immigrants brought him down with tea party supporters. on the other 457hand, mitt romn takes advantage of that. his hispanic support may not be there given this economy. >> happy thanksgiving. >> thank you. egypt's religious leaders a step in the forefront in the violence that's ripping their capital apart. day five of the uprising. ♪
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lower's what's ahead on "the rundown" a sfifth straight day
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of clashes and talks of truce. what's ahead for that country? then a new report suggests most u.s. states are seeing a drop in jobless rates. and leading a ring of fashion models to smuggle cocaine. and stocks are in the red again today after two days of losses. allegati alison kosik joins me from the u.s. stock exchange. what's driving the sell-off today? >> the market can't seem to shake fears about the eurozone debt crisis. every day there seems to be a new headline a new report showing its wrath. today, one coming from china. the chinese manufacturing slowed significantly last month. and that's a big deal. shows no even big, bad china can disend d disendow itself? europe's problems.
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spanish, no idea it can make good on countrying even like germany. >> what about out today more than usual, because the markets are closed tomorrow. right? >> exactly. the big sort of dump truck of economic reports that we got today, they're good enough to show that the economy is still growing, but not good enough to take a spotlight off of europe. we found durable goods orders are orders for big ticket items like computers and cars, refrigerators, those orders fell but came in better than expected. jobless claims up, below the reusch crucial 400,000 level. good news. and how much we made and spent last month was up. it shows people are cautiously buying, but, hey, we're still buying stuff. fredricka? >> a little bright sign there. we're hearing a new report out showing unemployment rates across the country are actually falling. tell us more about that. >> most of us don't feel it, but
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believe it or not, the stats show the job picture is actually improving. let me pull up a map and show you what states exactly, where unemployment rates are falling. in fact, 36 states are experiencing this. almost 75% ever country. another map i want to show you shows the big of the declines in unemployment. the rate in alabama. in michigan. 's in utah. in south carolina. they fell less than 1%. sounds minuscule but a huge drop for one month. true, we're seeing improvement in little bits but there's still room for more improvement. look at michigan and south carolina. they have unemployment rates over 10%. fredricka, it's all about baby step, baby, in this recovery. right? >> right. got to crawl before you walk. alison kosik, thanks so much. more confrontations and even a call for truce in egypt. we'll have the latest and talk to a military expert about what's next for that region.
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uall right. let's get back to egypt's uprising. you can see from these live pictures clearly an assemblage of a lot of people and you saw tear gas as we. we're hearing reports that possibly there is some either rounding up of protesters or trying to break up the activity of protesters involving military police. difficult to tell from these pictures here. bottom line, it is day five of these protests and it seems to be never-ending. it seems to be picking up as opposed to dissipating. many of the people there are demanding that the nation's military ruler step down immediately. meantime, we understand that egypt's highest ranking muslim cleric also tried to involve himself in this by trying to urge protesters to stay the course. the protesters rejected the military's proposal to speed up a transition to civilian rule.
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officials say at least 35 people have been killed, and almost 2,000 injured in clashes between police and protesters. the general prosecutor's office says a truce has been reached between the protesters and security forces at the ministry of interior in hopes of preventing further bloodshed. so the question now is, what is next for egypt? xbro joins us from paris by phone, a professor of middle eastern politics and international relations at the london school of economics and political science. egypt's highest ranking cleric, professor, is calls for police to stop attacking the protesters, but do you trust this so-called truce that we're hearing about, that may have been brokered in large part by religious leaders? >> well i think it's important but i doubt it very much whether it will be able to really end the current crisis. fredricka, for your viewers, this is a multidimensional
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crisis. on one hand you have a trust deficit between the egyptians, in particular the military council that's ruling egypt and many egyptians. a trust in the military institution is eroding as a result of the military council. on the one hand you also, and we hardly talk about the second point i want to make, really, at the heart of this particular crisis is a fundamental divide. between what i call the secular divide. this divide comes in part because of the rivalry and struggle between the liberals and seculars on the one hand and islamic forces on the other hand presented by the muslim brotherhood and the military for the last few weeks have been trying to respond to the liberals fears that the islamist the basically will win a majority in the parliament and finally, fredricka, few americans know that egypt and egyptians in the last ten months
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since the ouster of mubarak have been really suffering. you have more than 40% of egyptians who live on less than $2 a day. egyptians are really suffering and their lives improved in the last months. you have a multidimensional protest that climaxed by the military council and unwillingness to relinquish power. it wants to maintain its hold on the nation. this is wipe there are grievances on the part of many egyptians. >> ate of demonstrators are taking part because they're frustrated there hasn't been more change, for progress for them since the arab spring, but at the same time collectively it looks as if this movement is very much empowered by what took place during the arab spring. right? >> you're absolutely correct, fredricka. what we are seeing, not like a second revolution as many
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television commentators have been saying. this is a revolution in the making. it has been's in the making the last ten months. the reason they've risen up, again what i call the second phase, because i think what you have in egypt is a changed psychology. a psychological rupture has taken place not just in egypt but throughout the arab world. people feel empowered, emboldened. that's why i believe the military rulers basically appointed by mubarak, calculated monstrously by not loosening grips on power. by trying to reset the rules before the elections take place and what they misunderstood, misread, the psychology, the public mood and that's why i doubted very much the group of clerics respected as they are will be unable to address the grievouse grievances of those in power the
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last ten months. >> thanks for your time, joining us from paris. americans are on the move for thanksgiving, and the weather, it's not cooperating in so many places. a live report from one of the country's busiest airports. right after this. ♪
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the trip by plane, and depending where you are, the weather is expected to make one of the busiest travel days of the year quite the challenge to put it nicely. george howell is at atlanta's airport. george, what it's looking like? looks bare. something tells me that's not the case, really. >> reporter: fredricka, certainly we are seeing more traffic than usual. rather, we're seeing plenty of traffic on today this wednesday before thanksgiving, but not nearly as bad as we would expect this day. we talked to people who are making short connections to meet with family members, stay there a few days, but it's interesting when you talk to the military men and women who are traveling into atlanta to make hopefully extended stays with family. in fact, we talked to jason tinker, who just flew in from iraq. listen. >> when we walked down to the baggage claim, about 600 people just all of a sudden started whistling and clapping, and it was amazing feeling. amazing. so -- >> reporter: and as far as being
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back, what's the first thing that you plan to do? >> kiss my wife. i've been married to her for 20 years, and i love her to death. >> reporter: great story in. we've seen plenty of those stories as people get off the flight and arrive here in atlanta. a lot of people coming into town today. ready to spend time with family and just relax and enjoy the holidays. fredricka. >> you know it's been pretty stormy in the southeast the last 24 hours, and it's not over yet. how is that impacting on-time departures and arrivals? >> reporter: it's interesting. we talked to one family. they're flying to denver from dayton. and they tell me that they were flying into atlanta, but had to wait in dayton because of the weather that blew through atlanta overnight. that weather not an issue right now. we see some clouds in the skies, but not nearly as bad as it was last night.
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so really smooth sailing right now out of atlanta, and that's a big deal, given the volume of the traffic that comes through this airport. fredricka? >> thanks so much. a lot of people are thankful to be able to try to get away, even if they are going to be a little delayed here and there. happy thanksgiving to you, george. thanks so much. all right. checking some of the stories our afill yitsz afiliates are cover school bus crash. injures 15 students. carrying a high school women's basketball team returning from a game. no one seriously hurt. police say the driver of a pickup truck caused the crash. he was charged with drunk driving. in oklahoma, a sea of one 00 dollar bills rained down on an intersection. drivers jumped out of their cars to grab them. police think someone went to the bank and accidentally left the money on the hood of their car patch good samaritan grabbed what he could, about $700, and returned it to police.
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>> ah. you can never get enough of those. in highlands ranch, colorado, a soldier home surprises his children in their classroom two days before thanksgiving. he got down on that bended knee and the children rushed into his arms, as you see there. not a dry eye in the house. he hadn't seen them for 400 days. so what are you most grateful for this thanksgiving? that's our "talk back" question. your responses moments away. it's like having portable navigation. a bluetooth connection. a stolen vehicle locator. roadside assistance. and something that could help save your life - automatic help in a crash. it's the technology of five devices in one hard-working mirror. because life happens while you drive. this holiday, give someone you love an onstar fmv mirror for only 199. visit onstar.com for retailers.
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in alexandria, virginia. beautiful. all right. we are still a long way from the general election, but one republican candidate may already have some possible running mates in mind. joe johns is live from in mine. joe johns is live. we're talking about mitt romney, who is floating some names around already. >> yeah. he's probably getting ahead of himself too. mitt romney on monday dropped a name for possible running mate should he secure his party's nomination. he said there are probably 15 names of people, including new hampshire senator kelly iot. there are terrific republicans in the senate he said, and the house. and governors offices as well. he's trying to be pretty diplomatic. but the senator he mentioned happened to be sitting next to romney at the time of the interview. romney this weekend got her endorsement. she's a first-term senator.
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60% of the vote. she's seen as a strong conservative. also comes from the right state too. the first of the nation primary state. when she was asked who romney should pick, she picked a bunch of people including marco rubio, paul ryan, and virginia governor bob mcdonnell. so a lot of names out there should romney get the nomination. but as you know, not a single vote has been cast. we're sort of a long way away from getting to that point. >> it is still early. lots of debates. we had one last night. ron paul was upstaging some of the candidates, shaking things up a bit. he said he's not riding off into the sunset. >> he's always changing the conversation, if you think about it. he's had strong showings.
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right now, he's at 14% in iowa according to the latest cnn orc poll. that's very respectable. whether you agree or disagree with his libertarian points. he can take a debate in the different direction. probably the best example was a position he took on profiling. listen to this. >> what if they look like timothy mcveigh? we're using too much careness in the use of words that we're at war. i don't remember voting on a declared declaration of war. >> really distinguishing himself there from comments that were made by the former senator from pennsylvania, rick santorum, who said he would like to e see some profiling. so ron paul taking a strong position there. >> okay. i wonder. a lot of these candidates may not be taking the holiday off, because they are campaigning hard. but any of them revealing their
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thanksgiving plans that we know of? >> no. not so far. one of the things that a lot of us have been wondering about ron paul is whether he has plans for the future of maybe running as a third-party candidate. but the funny thing about him, so far he's said again and again, he's not going to do that. a guy like that with such following maybe he'll change his mind down the road. some candidates actually have. never say never at this stage. >> now the chatter is intensifying. all right. happy thanksgiving to you. are you staying washington side? >> exactly. hoping to fill in for wolf blitzer in the situation room on friday. unless something extraordinary happens. >> all right. we'll be watching. thanks so much, joe. for the latest political news, go to cnn.com.
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you have been sounding off on our talk back question. what are you most grateful for this thanksgiving? carol joins me now. what are people saying? >> lots of cool stuff. this from christine. my husband, who is an army cap pain. i cannot imagine our family without him. paul is grateful for my daughter, girlfriend, family, my job, the fact we have an nfl season and my raiders lead the afc west right now. this from peter. i'm grateful my wife and i have our health and a roof over our heads. this from arthur. i'm grateful for the abun dance of turkeys this year. >> do you have a long list of things you are thankful for, carol? >> i'm thankful for my husband because he's the best. he's the best.
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i'm also grateful for my family. what else matters in life? i can't think of much else. >> i'm with you on that one. i'm grateful to have a great supportive family that spans from atlanta to d.c., new york, texas, california. hopefully not leaving anybody out. we laugh together and we laugh at each other, and that's fun. >> isn't it? it's the best. >> all right. happy thanksgiving, carol. columbia's former queen of coffee is a convicted cocaine trafficker. she says she's innocent. cnn has her first interview from behind bars. [ male announcer ] imagine facing the day with less chronic low back pain. imagine living your life with less chronic osteoarthritis pain. imagine you, with less pain. cymbalta can help.
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liberty mutual insurance. responsibility. what's your policy? arkansas jen teen authorities say the queen of coffee headed up a ring of drug-sm drug-smuggling fashion models who operated from south america to europe. she maintains her innocence. now raphael romo has her first interview from prison. >> reporter: from her very humble beginnings in columbia, she rose to the top of one of her country's most coveted beauty pageants. she was crowned as the queen of coffee. it was the year 2000 and the beginning of a career that would propel her into the world of her dreams as an internationally acclaimed model. but that career came to a screeching halt in may of 2010, when she was arrested in
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arkansas jen t argentina and charged with drug trafficking. speaking from prison for the first time. >> translator: i have been here one year and seven months. i'm innocent of all the accusatio accusations. it was a big misunderstanding. >> reporter: after her arrest, she became known as the queen of cocaine. she was charged with leading a ring of fashion models to smuggle cocaine from south america and into europe. she says her boyfriend and his uncle, who are also in prison, were indeed involved in drug trafficking, but not her. >> translator: it may sound ridiculous, but i'm innocent of this farce they invented. my boyfriend made a mistake and i'm paying the consequences. but i love him, and i love him because he loves me just the way i am. i never found in anybody else what i found in him. >> reporter: now 32 years old and sentenced to six years behind bars, the promising
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career she once had seems like a vanishing dream. >> translator: i regret having taken the flight. >> reporter: she expressed regret once before. she was dethroned as the queen of coffee for breaking the rules by having been married. >> translator: aim very capricious. a lot of bad things have happened to me for not listening happened to me for not listening to my mother. -- captions by vitac -- www.vitac.com top of the hour now. i'm fredricka whitfield. poll leader newt gingrich may have urged the conservative base with his stand on illegal immigration. people who have been in this country for decades should be allow allowed to stay. his rival mitt romney called that amnesty. >> amnesty is a magnet. when we have had in the past programs that said people who
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come here legally are going to get to stay legally, that's going to encourage more people to come here illegally. the right course is to say we welcome people who want to come here legally. we're going to have a system that makes that easier. but to make sure we're able to bring in the best and brightest. >> they are going to adopt an immigration policy that destroys family. i'm prepared to take the heat by saying let's be humane by enforcing the law by finding a way to create legality. new information on the penn state scandal. sources close to the investigation say child and youth services is looking at two new cases of alleged child abuse by long time assistant coach jerry sandusky. the boys making the allegations are still under the age o of 18. sandusky is charged with molesting eight boys. all are now adults. egypt's highest-ranking
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clerk are calling on police to stop attacking protesters. he's calling for protesters to stay the course. the country's uprising is getting bolder and bloodier. at least 35 people have been killed and almost 2,000 injured in five straight days of pitched battles. three american college student ace accused of throwing moll tav cocktails are going to be questioned today. breaking news now out of yemen. the country's president has signed an agreement to step down after 33 years in power. tens of thousands of protesters have been protesting since january for an end to his regime. but it's still unclear if demonstrators will be satisfied until more sweeping political changes takes place in one of the world's poorest countries.
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uc sdaifs trying to make good after the pepper spray incident last week. it was all caught on video. the school is now promising to pay the medical bills of students who were sprayed. charges against students who were arrested are being dropped. a judge in texas who was criticized after a youtube video show showed him whipping his daughter has been suspend. the supreme court did not give a reason for suspending him. it shows him then hitting his 16-year-old girl with a belt and cursing at her. adams says she was punished for using the internet to illegally download music and games. tens of thousands of americans are traveling by road, rail, or air to spend the thanksgiving holiday with family and friends. more than 23 million people are flying to their destinations. two major storms in the northeast and pacific northwest are expected to make travel
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quite the hassle for many. and a stunning helicopter crash is caught on camera in new zealand. just look. amazing. it could have been far worse. a blade clipped a cable as the pilot was preparing to put up a christmas tree. that caused the chopper to flip. the pilot was not seriously hurt. we want to update you on an incredible story of injustice we brought to you yesterday about an afghan teen who was raped and jailed for being raped. and then she was faced with either marrying her rapist or risking being killed. the young woman's sentence has been reduced from 12 years to three years. we have details on her horrific ordeal. >> reporter: she remembers the smell of her rapist's clothes.
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>> translator: he had filthy clothes on as he does metal and construction work. when my mother went out, he came into my house. i started screaming. but he put his hand on my mouth. >> reporter: her rapist was the husband of her cousin, but in afghanistan's society, this 19-year-old was also blamed. her rape, sex with a married man, was seen as adultery and she was sentenced to jail. to her, there's only one way out. a dreadful choice. >> translator: i was asked if i wanted to start a new life by getting released by marrying this man. my answer was that one man dishonored me and i want to stay with that man. >> reporter: inside the prison walls, she agreed to be interviewed with her face hidden. her daughter is the child of the rape. >> translator: my daughter is a
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little innocent child, who knew i would have a child in this way? a lot of people told me after your daughter is born, give it to someone else. my aunt told me to keep her as proof of my innocence. >> nick peyton walsh is live from kabul. nick, the sentence was reduced from 12 to three years. but she's still being held. explain the circumstances here. what's going on? >> reporter: this is what's quite remarkable. clearly the judge looked at the circumstances of her case and decided she needs to spend more time in jail. now the justification for this is not that necessarily put more behind the charge of adultery. they say she should stay in jail because she didn't come forward fast enough to report the original crime. that is deeply confusing to me people. the same breath that they don't believe she was raped. they conceive this to be adultery.
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on one hand, lowering the amount of time she should be in jail. others saying she should stay in jail because she didn't report the crime. we asked the united nations what recourse they have. >> well, her case should go up to the supreme court. she should pursue, and i think she is pursuing, all legal means. at the end of the day, there is some action that may need to be taken by the president to address these types of cases of violence against women across the country. but it would be much better if the courts addressed it proper ly in the first place. >> reporter: they appealed to the president. of course, asylum is the next question. the prosecutor spokesman did suggest the possibility of a presidential pardon in the coming months, but that hasn't
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happened yet. she remains in jail with her child. >> all right. thanks so much, nick. here's your chance to talk back on one of the big stories of the day as yao preparing for the holiday. what are you most grateful for this thanksgiving? carol cost tell la joins us with more. >> i know one thing i'm grateful for. it's unbelievable. but getting back to the matter at hand. are you getting ready for the thanksgiving day prayer? the one where you thank god for all that's good in your life. with unemployment at 9%, the stock market on a roller coaster ride, and partisan politics, it's tempting to ask god for help. but don't do it. all this negative energy is impacting the nation's success. >> they are feeling insecure. america is at war outside and
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inside. we have so much devisiveness in our political parties. and feeling a lack of self-esteem. we think we can't produce anymore. but everything that's right still exists. >> that's easy for him to say. he has a media empire. still on this thanksgiving eve, let's look at the bright side. overall, we have added 1.2 million jobs. while it's not as many as we'd hoped for, we're not losing jobs. interest rates are staying level. not bright enough? look around you. most of you have love in your life from family and friends. let's focus on that today. what are you grateful for this thanksgiving? facebook.com. i'll read your comments later this hour. >> i can't wait to hear more.
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thank you. here's a rundown of some of the stories we're covering over the next hour. first, egypt's protesters aren't backing down despite a violent police crackdown. and two more alleged victims claim former penn state coach jerry sandusky molested them. we'll take a look at the new charges. then a year and a half after the gulf oil spill, scientists are saying the seafood may not be safe. >> i personally think we can occupy the hearts and minds of people. >> behind the scenes in occupy wall street's media room. and later a telescope so powerful that it can look back almost to the dawn of creation. emily's just starting out... and on a budget.
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i was gonna say that. uh huh... [♪...] >> announcer: now get a $250 airfare credit, plus save up to 65%. call 1-800-sandals. certain restrictions apply. military police today poured into egypt's square in hopes of stopping clashes between protesters and police. you're looking at live pictures from the square. the government of egypt says a truce has been declared through a group of clerics. this comes on day five of the demonstrations calling for the military rulers to step down. authorities say 35 people have been killed and almost 2,000 injured so far. in the meantime, the country's highest muslim cleric
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is calling to stop attacking protesters. ben, are police kind of heeding that call from these religious leaders who say no more violence? >> reporter: it's a significant call, but they are earlier today, we were in an area where the army had interceded between the police and protesters. for a couple hours, things were calm. the protesters were still trying to move ahead, but there was a barrier put up across the road. but suddenly rocks started to fly. and the army was simply outnumbered by the police. the police opened fire with tear gas. rocks were being thrown in both directions. so this truce, which we're two or three hours promised a period of calm, just completely
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collapsed. you may be able to hear in the background all the ambulances, which are rushing to the front lines to get protesters who have been hit by rocks. they are suffocating from tear gas. in some cases, maybe hit by rubber bullets as well. so it appears the truce is a thing of the past. >> describe for me what's going on behind you there. we can see clearly there's still large crowds. is it essentially a standoff where you have demonstrators on one side and police on the other just sort of challenging each other or almost a stare down? >> reporter: let me explain the geography. the square is behind me. it's full of people. there are no clashes going on. all the clashes are happening to the east of here. just a couple hundred yards on the roads leading to the interior ministry. now the government and the police have said that as far as
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the presence of protesters in the square, that's fine. they have no problem. the problem is in the area around the interior ministry, where at this point, it's more of a battle than a standoff. i can tell you from the number of people that are showing up at the hospital down below me and the number of ambulances, clearly, it's a major battle raging at this moment. >> all right. thanks so much, ben. we want to take a moment to honor a member of the cnn family. long time radio anchor stan case was killed in a car crash in birmingham, alabama, tuesday night. his wife was injured and remains hospitalized. she's one of cnn's writers. one of my lead writers on my weekend team. stan case came to cnn in 1985 after working as a correspondent in oklahoma city. cnn radio news manager mike jones says case was in many ways
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the backbone of this network. tyler moody, vice president of cnn radio says, our thoughts now are for his wife's recovery and his family during this difficult time. for over 26 years, stan was our friend first and colleague second. he will be missed. stan case was 59 years old. just one phillips' colon health probiotic cap a day
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a new cnn orc poll is out today. it shows president obama holding steady at a 44% approval rating. the big question right now is whether that will be enough to win him another term in office. then there are the republicans. eight candidates, eight very different opinions on everything from the war in afghanistan to immigration. our jill dauerty has the highlights from the debate. >> reporter: with eight republicans on stage, president obama got a few nicks. >> if you like what barack obama has done to our economy, you'll love what he's done to our
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national security. >> reporter: but the candidates had their knives out for each other. >> are you suggesting we take our troops out next week? >> we should draw down from 100,000. >> reporter: there was heated debate on whether the patriot act should be extended. >> all of us will be in danger for the rest of our lives. this is not going to end in the short run. we need to be prepared to protect ourselves. >> you can still provide security without sacrificing our bill of rights. [ applause ] >> i think we have to be careful in protecting our individual liberties. we protect sometimes that we have a name brand in this world. >> reporter: should specific ethnic or religious groups in america be profiled for security screenings. >> who would be profiled? >> muslims would be someone you'd look at. absolutely. those are the folks that are committing these crimes. >> that's digging a hole for ourselves. what if they look like timothy
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mcveigh. >> reporter: mt. midst of a heavy debate, a light moment. >> is it okay for muslim americans to get more intensive patdowns when they go through airports than christian americans or jewish americans? >> no, blitz. that's oversimplifying it. if you allow our intelligence agencies to do their job, they can come up with an approach. i'm sorry, blitz. i meant wolf. >> reporter: what about aid to pakistan. >> pakistan is a nation that's kind of like too nuclear to fail. >> until pakistan clearly shows that they have america's best interest in mind, i would not send them one penny. period. >> with all due respect to the governor, i think that's high l
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naive. >> wolf blitzer says from where he was standing on stage, newt gingrich looked like the big winner. >> he's doing really well in iowa and new hampshire. so he has a lot going right now. he's been good in all the debates. he's been around washington for 50 years. he knows these issues. he's obviously a smart guy. he's very confident. he goes into the debates strong. and it's one of the reasons he came from disaster last summer with the credit card thing came out. he took the cruise to the mediterranean. his staff quit in new hampshire. he was nowhere then. now he's at the top of the pack. so you have to give him credit. one of the reasons he does well in the debates. >> right now, he's enjoying a
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serge of popularity. he's leading the pack with the backing of 24% of republican voters. the international space station didn't smash into a piece of junk today as nasa feared. a four-inch piece from an old chinese weather satellite had flight controllers worried. they ordered the crew to take shelter. but it was a false alarm. the debris wasn't as close as nasa thought, so the crew went about their business. nasa plans to put a new tell scone in orbit in 2018. it's so powerful it will make l hubble look like something for your backyard. but anything that good comes from a pretty big price tag. >> reporter: this is the future outside the maryland science center. it's a full-scale model of nasa's james webb telescope. scientists believe the real thing will redefine the understanding of our place in the universe. it will be so unique, it can
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look further back in time than the hubble telescope. almost to the dawn of creation. >> the james webb telescope is to help us find our history. >> reporter: and astronomers say if they look in the right place and get a bit lucky -- >> this may give us our clues about life in another solar system. >> i think that would be really cool. >> reporter: webb will orbit one million miles from earth. it's designed to image in the infrared range. light we can't see. webb's capabilities will allow it to literally look where hubble could not. into gas and dust clouds at the birth of the first stars and planets. sounds incrible, right? webb might get us another step closer to solving the puzzle. are we alone? >> i don't even know how you put
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a price on being able to answer questions like, how old is the universe? how did this all start? where's it going? what is it made of? are there other people out there like us? these questions are just so intrinsic. >> reporter: but there is a price tag. when webb is launched in 2018, it will be years behind schedule and cost about $8.8 billion. $6.5 billion more than the original estimate. congress came close to killing it at one point. so how did it end up at an astronomical cost? >> when you're going inventions for the first time, you don't know what you're going to run into. we found several things that we had to work around. >> reporter: and it better work from the get go. when hubble ran into problems, astronauts came to the rescue. but hubble was only 300 miles up. at one million miles away, even if the shuttle was still flying,
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it couldn't get there to fix webb. john surella, cnn. just as his lawyer predicted, new allegations surfaced. this time our sources say the victims are minors right now. my guests will tell us how it could reshape the case. announce] still getting dandruff? neutrogena® t/gel shampoo defeats dandruff after just one use. t/gel shampoo. it works. neutrogena®. pillsbury crescent bacon cheddar pinwheels just unroll, add ingredients, roll and bake. and the crowd goes wild. crescent bacon cheddar pinwheels. game day ideas made easy.
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here's a rundown of the stories we're working on right now. next, two new allegations against penn state's former coach, jerry sandusky. then behind the scenes at occupy wall street. meet the people trying to spread the message on the internet. and later, attention holiday
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shoppers. some malls are keeping track of your every move and they are using your cell phone in which to do so. a new development to talk about today in the penn state child molestation case. sources close to the investigation say child and youth services is checking two new incidents of alleged abuse by long time assistant coach jerry sandusky. sources indicate the cases were filed no earlier than mid-september, and the alleged victims are minors. >> these are not the first two new cases that we have heard of. there have been reports of several other cases. other attorneys said they have victims who say they were abused as far back as the 1970s. so it's kind of unclear how many of these have been vetted by police and how many might testify before a grand jury. how many are within the statute of limitations that the cases could be prosecuted. we don't know. >> i want to talk to richard herman in las vegas. if the new allegations evolve
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into prosecutors bringing additional charges based on what they are finding, what does that mean for jerry sandusky? he's out on bond. what would be the next step? >> the next step will be a super ceding indictment or a new indictment against him. in that case, he's going to be rearrested. he's going to be dragged into court again. there will be a bail application. all the judges in that county have recused themselves. they have stepped away from the case due to their contacts either with penn state or the charity. so a new slew of judges will handle it. and they watch tv. they read the newspapers. when it comes time to set bail next time around, i think it's going to be onerous and i think he's going to be incarcerated. >> penn state has brought in lou freeh. one has to wonder who you this is going to compliment or potentially conflict with the
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ongoing investigations. >> i think -- look. they are trying to help their image. by reaching out to freeh who is a respected lawman, he has no teeth. he has nothing he can really use. he does not have subpoena power. the board of trustees have said, whatever his recommendations are, the board will consider them. because of the ongoing criminal investigations of potential federal charges being filed here, anybody has to be completely insane to speak to freeh or any of his former agents assisting him. i don't believe they are going to get cooperation. if you're a potential defendant, you have to keep your mouth shut. no one is going to cooperate with this. >> so there is a federal investigation going on, at least two. the department of education getting involved here. is it your feeling that in the
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end, it's the federal investigation that would super seed lower jurisdictions investigations? >> it's interesting. double jeopardy could attach. some of the cries are state crimes. some are federal crimes. i'm not sure how it may play out. the state may want to hold on to their claims. we'll see what kind of case the fed's bring. and then in that event, the state cases will probably continue on ward. >> all right. thanks so much. always good to see you from las vegas. >> nice to see you. happy thanksgiving. >> thanks so much. the new york police department doesn't want you to see the next video we're about to show you. we'll hear from the people who defied the occupy wall street media blackout. [ bells dinging ]
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police blocked reporters from filming the eviction of protest from zuccotti park. that didn't stop people from catching it on camera. >> our mission is to tell stories that won't get told if we're not there to tell them. you experienced some of that this week. where if you're not embedded in an activity, you cannot get that story. >> reporter: when our cameras were blocked from filming the eviction of zuccotti park, these
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guys were live streaming it. >> we eliminate the area where no one reports anything. >> reporter: in this cramped, tiny room in lower manhattan sits the unofficial media headquarters for the occupy wall street movement. >> what i'm doing is grabbing content of what's happening on the ground and transferring it so people can witness it. >> we're dealing with basically thousands of people launching at a tile. we monitor live feeds from all over the world. we pick what is the most interesting at any given time and put it on the air and do a split screen with two places that are having activity at the same time. >> it's not just occupy wall street. it's occupy movements around the world. >> we're working closely with occupations around the world and around the country to teach them how to do this.
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>> how important was that for you guys to have the ability to live stream the eviction? >> that was the main reason that we were live streaming in the first place. >> that was the night of the eviction. that's coming off a lap tap and a web cam. >> reporter: eventually that night, he was arrested. here's some of the footage live streamed during the eviction. >> it's really important. every occupation can show their story to the world and show what's actually happening. >> do you think that what you stream here in this video that you collect is going to be an important part of history? >> this is history. i don't see anything in my lifetime that rivals it. >> does this show us that you don't need a space or all need to be there to occupy? you're occupying from here?
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>> yeah. that could be the next level of occupation. i personally think we can occupy the hearts and minds of people easier than occupying a park. >> while you soon may be hitting the mall hot on the trail of the best bargains, did you know someone could be tracking you and your every buy? find out who. and remember the idea of six degrees of separation and kevin bacon? >> just an idea. and six agrees in general. the fact we're all connected. >> now scientists have figured out the average number of acquaintances separating any two people in the world is no longer six. can you guess how many? is it ten degrees, two degrees, or four degrees of separation? the answer in a moment. [ woman ] my boyfriend and i were going on vacation, so i used my citi thank you card to pick up some accessories.
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okay. so thanks to facebook and other social media, a lot more of us know a whole lot more people. that means we need just four degrees of separation now. in the u.s., where more than a half of people are on facebook. the degree of separation is slightly smaller. 4.37. by the way the six degrees concept dates back to 1929 when an author wrote a book saying no one is more than a string of six friends away from any other person. there you go. now it's four. so if you're keeping an eye
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on your stocks now, they are not looking so good. bring us some good news on this. >> i will give you good news at the top. we're deep in the red. the dow down 194 points. jobless claims are holding steady. how much americans made and spent, those numbers went up. but clearly, pretty good data. not good enough to trump the debt crisis. weak demand there was described as a total disaster. there's a lack of confidence that even germany can make good on its investments. it really shows how pervasive the fear about the europe debt crisis is. >> some folks are fast
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forwarding about the black friday deals. but apparently, their patterns of purchasing or shopping are being closely watched by who? >> yes. the malls. the malls are going to be watching you. two malls have announced they are going to track the cell phons of shoppers from black friday through new years day. here's how this is going to work. the technology is going to track where your phone is. so it's going to track where you go. it's really going to show how you move your way through the mall. what stores you go to. if you grab a starbucks after visiting nordstrom or linger too long in victoria's secret. they want to know what are the the spots in the mall that are unpopular. they want to know your shopping habits. the company that makes this tracking equipment says it helps the stores improve the shopping experience. but they also say that no
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personal data will be collected. they are not going to know what i buy in the store. they are not going to know that. but if you're worried, you can opt out by turning that phone off. >> i have a feeling some people will be doing that. thanks so much. happy thanksgiving. in the meantime, a lot of folks in new england will be shopping in ideal conditions. >> i think the mittens and the scarves are going out the door. especially north of massachusetts. we are talking about northern new england and the ad adirondacks. so there you go. >> folks will enjoy being inside with one another. as long as they can get there. >> the snow shovel makers are happy at this point in time. here's what we're talking about. we're talking about rain from the big cities. that's slowing the airports down a bit.
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but the snow is much farther to the north. we're talking about interior maine. and also back into the adirondacks here into new york. showers across parts of florida. may need an umbrella for tampa shopping now. i was sitting in makeup with susan hendrix. she says i was at the store for an hour and a half just trying to buy a turkey. today is black friday for food. if you're going to be out and about, take your patience. it is a little longer as you linger longer in the stores whether you want to or not. rain across the pacific northwest. this is the next storm. it will affect your commute back from grandmother's house on sunday. it will travel across the country by then. for thanksgiving day, if you're traveling there, airports are usually in good shape. today is usually the busiest day of the year. we have a couple of delays at this point. this is the newark departure
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board. you can purchase this app for your ipad. a lot of flights cancelled. but these are the jet expresses. these are the smaller airplanes. here's a shuttle. from indianapolis. that was cancelled. you can see whether your flight was cancelled. it's not so bad that the flight came in late, but when your plane doesn't ever get to the airport, then you're scrambling. if you have two to five empty seats on any plane and you cancel 80 people, how do you put 80 people into two seats? it takes a long time to get that figured out. >> hopefully people will get there. thanks so much. happy thanksgiving. as you are preparing for tomorrow's thanksgiving holiday, what are you most grateful for? that's our talk back question today. i'm grateful to be employed and for my soldier and our four
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beautiful children. more of your responses moments away. she even named her kid "black friday." [ woman 2 ] whoa. [ male announcer ] black friday's here. deals start thursday 10 pm. but we're open all day and night so you don't have to wait outside. the only place to go on black friday. walmart. nice, huh? yeah. you know what else is nice is all the savings you can get on cruze and traverse over there. oh! that's my beard. [ chuckles ] it's amazing. ♪ [ male announcer ] this holiday, chevy's giving more. now very well qualified lessees can sign and drive a 2012 cruze ls for around $199 a month. ♪
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you're grateful for. carol joins us from new york with more of your responses. people are happy to express what they are thankful for. i like that. >> it's kind of nice too. the talk back question is what are you grateful for on this holiday? kevin, starting a new job on monday after being unemployed the last 15 months. this from jeff, a u.s. military guy. no matter how bad the situation is, we're still in a tolerable
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country that you can leave your house in the morning and almost guarantee you'll be back home at the end of the day. and this from josh, even though my government thinks pizza is a vegetable, i'm lucky enough to live in a country in which i have the power to make my own decisions. now it's time to call pizza hut and order a salad. keep the comments coming. we have enjoyed reading your comments. thank you for them. >> i love that. jean from minnesota says this is what she's grateful for. >> this thanksgiving i will be thankful for receiving unemployment insurance. i've experienced my second
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layoff in september in a total of three years. i'm also very hopeful that i will find an even better job than i was laid off from. >> we're thank fful for your comments. and we're thankful you're watching with us today too. how safe is a seafood from the gulf of mexico? hear from fishermen and the government have to say. cnn goes back to the site of the bpil spill. long-lasting, too. yeah, i could really use this silverado. i'm a big hunter. oh, what do you hunt? deer. fish. fantastic. ♪ this holiday, chevy's giving more. now qualified buyers can get 0% apr for 72 months on a 2011 chevy silverado. or 0% apr financing for 60 months plus no monthly payments until spring. ♪ [ knock on door ] cool. you found it. wow. nice place. yeah. [ chuckles ] the family thinks i'm out shipping these. smooth move. you used priority mail flat rate boxes. if it fits, it ships for a low, flat rate.
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paid for postage online and arranged a free pickup. and i'm gonna track them online, too. nice. between those boxes and this place, i'm totally staying sane this year. do i smell snickerdoodles? maybe. [ timer dings ] got to go. priority mail flat rate shipping at usps.com. a simpler way to ship. did you hear sam... ...got promoted to director? so 12 seconds ago. we should get him a present. thanks for the gift basket. you're welcome. you're welcome. did you see hr just sent out new... ...office rules? cause you're currently in violation of 6 of them. oh yeah, baby? ...and 7. did you guys hear that fred is leaving? so 30 seconds ago. [ noisemakers blow ] [ both ] we'll miss you! oh, facecake! there's some leftover cake. [ male announcer ] the new htc vivid. stay a step ahead with at&t 4g lte, with speeds up to 10x faster than 3g. ♪
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up. this involves that caught in the gulf of mexico. and just how safe it is after the bp oil spill. gary tuckman has our update. >> reporter: tom barry relies on the gulf of mexico for his livelihood. he's a louisiana crabber and shrimper, who since the bp oil disaster has been losing lots of money. >> how scary of a time is this for you and your family? >> if we had a way out, we would probably get out. >> reporter: leaders in the seafood industry say catches are way down compared to before the disaster. there's just not as many fish. and there's also this. >> are you concerned about the safety of the food? >> i'm very concerned. i have children. very concerned. >> your concerned as a businessman and a father? >> correct. >> reporter: fishermen don't like to speak negatively of their cash crop, but you don't only hear it from the fishermen.
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you hear it from leaders. >> do you feel safe for you and your family to eat the shrimp? >> i eat it. >> but do you feel 100% confident it's as healthy as it was before the spill? >> no. >> reporter: the food and drug administration says the seafood is safe to eat. >> i eat is every day. it's safe. >> reporter: but there are other scientists who disagree in alarming fashion. >> there's an increased risk of cancer if you eat a lot of seafood. >> reporter: dr. sullivan is with the defense counsel. a national vieshlt l group. a study indicates gulf seafood is safe for the typical adult, but chemicals from the oil make it less safe for their children. >> kids who eat a lot of seafood could be at increased risk of cancer. if a mom eats seafood, her baby could be at increased risk of
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cancer if she eats enough of it. so what the chemicals in the oil do is they damage chromosomes, cause cell mutations. >> reporter: the fda strongly disagrees saying the data was miscalculated and the seafood is safe for everyone, including children. >> you'd have to eat 63 pounds of shrimp or five pounds of oyster or nine pounds of fin fish every day for five years before they would exceed levels to be concerned about. >> reporter: when the bp oil well was capped, this story start started fading from the memories of people. but not for the people whose livelihoods depend on the water. their fear and anxiety only made worse by the lack of public attention being paid. there will be more public attention though because of the fda dispute and because of anecdotes like this. >> fishermen are bringing in shrimp without any

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